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of the things that government does. simplify the tax code for tax complexity has washington revolves around it. they lose the power for the brainpower to doing productive things. and so yes, the thing to remember about spending if the money doesn't come from the head. it comes from you. you spit it out to politically favored constituent groups. that's not stimulus, more like waste. >> host: just go back to your original point, would you like to see no floating currencies. we had it for 180 years. it provides stability and value is 60 minutes, 16 ounces in a pound. so it doesn't restrict money supplied to have a vibrant economy of blossoms. a stagnant economy stays stagnant. what it means is if you make a contract to years from now that a fixed amount of dollars from the value of the dollar to years of the same messages today. when you make an investment company you are in effect when you value that investment is the future stream of income and net present value. so if your facebook shoes because you think it's going to pretend times in the next five years, you don't know what the dollars going
is no deal on taxes. nearly every american is going to have to pay more in just eight days if congress can't reach some kind of an agreement. checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial average is down about 41 points. again, we've got a half day of trading and we close today at 1 p.m., so that traders can go out on christmas break. light volume, but there are significant movers that we'll talk about in just a second. in particular, apple and jb penpejb-- j.c. penney. we have shibani joshi and adam shapiro as well and first to nicole, j.c. penney, a lot of people worried about retail sales, think it's going to hit companies like j.c. penney hard? guess what? the stock is up 4%, why? >> that's a huge move on a day when the major market average, look the at j.c. penney, it's posted comments from oppenheimer this morning, talking about the fact that promotions are working well and bringing traffic into john kerry opiniony, you know that we spoke about ron johnson and came up from apple and his whole theory, was no promotion and great prices all the time and that really was work
ticks. house speaker john boehner announced his plan b to let bush-era tax cuts expire for earners making more than $1 million a year and he wants to set automatic spending cuts with unspecified cuts elsewhere. the speaker pulled his so-called plan b for lack of support from his own party because many republicans still beholden to grover nor quest and the ridiculous pledge want no compromise at all. the debate between the two sides centers around a balanced approach the budget. republicans say president obama wants too much revenue. that's taxes in normal speak and not enough cuts. >> at some point we're going to have to address the spending problem that we have. we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need economic growth. many believe the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama doesn't see it that way. >> at some point there's got to be i think a recognition on the part of my republican friends, that you know, take the
is more affected by what happens in washington financial sector directly affected by the fed, by tax policy, etc., the financials had a turnaround as well. i think they are still generally negative. the dow is now negative, but just by a couple ticks. again the turnaround is story. financials in general today, tell us how they did. nicole: the one i would talk about that really represents what went on with the financials is bank of america. bank of america hit a 52 week high, sold off, was like a number one loser in if the dow, number two loser in the dow and then moved back and came up off the lows. so it shows you the financials really drive the market one way or another. you really get a good feel. david: bank of america is up over 100% this year even with today's loss. it has incredible turnaround. [closing bell ringing] shibani: the bells are ringing on wall street. it was a roller coaster ride of a day. let's take a look at how stocks are finishing up. it's well on the fence here as to where we're going to close. the dow is lower right now. down about 20 points. the s&p 500 dow
there. the hard top economists and started a website. we held a second conference on tax policy in may in new york and we have an event scheduled in september in chicago that will feature governor mitch daniels. like the project as a whole, this book seeks americans as our economic problems as a way to advance opportunity and prosperity. we are currently growing at 2%. that's not good enough. this book offers free ticket to 4%. if we get to 4%, unemployment will plummet and so with the burden of debt. we hope this book will become the focus of discussion about the economy during the election campaign and beyond. it's about growth and freedom. today we have a short discussion appear among three contributors to the book. i want to introduce my good friend and former colleague, kevin hassett, american enterprise institute, formerly senior economist at the fed. he read a great chapter on the path to growth, focusing on spending, taxes and certainty. next come on the far end, jason fichtner, senior research fellow at the mercator center at george mason university and former chief economist
. not only the combination of tax increases and spending cuts push the economy into a recession, the debt ceiling would be reached and at some point the u.s. would be unable to pay its bond holders. that would be a catastrophe. because it would be such a catastrophe, i don't think it would happen. >> glenn, you would agree with that, if we went over for a week or two, the prorated tax increase, the taxes going up for a week or two and spending cuts for a week, it wouldn't have much effect on the economy. >> not a big deal, but i think the uncertainty it creates, both sides actually may have agendas a little easier if we went off the cliff. republicans can do tax reform more straight forwardly and the president can do his own version of tax policy and spending policy but that would have to be done quickly. >> peter, you write that you want the discussion, the deal to be tax hikes and entitlement reform. do you want it to be more comprehensive than that or are those two the key elements? >> at this point, those are the two key elements. one is necessary for resolving the fiscal cliff. the o
. they support proposition 30 in california to raise taxes one upper income californians and to raise the sales tax because hispanics remain at the lower level of the economic ladder and they use government welfare programs at a very high rate.t . lou: i welcome this discussion. now being by the republicans one reforming our immigration laws. but i hope there is not a rush to judgment somehow loses across a vast sea of facts and realities that have been avoided by both political parties. the american people really need to understand what is happening the hispanic community needs to understand what is happening.de the idea that this countryhere should be selecting those of prince and the united states based on their skills or bgo talents, that has to be a tough sell when theug land bridge istt downe south. >> that is white amnesty is very risky because it means that stopping the flow of illegal aliens from that land bridge will be even more difficult. lou: if there is an amnesty, to be the the third in the last 26 years and it will be something to watch.wa >> and we will have it in full, i guar
a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation changing the plain text that congress passed in order to declare obamacare constitutional, which is a little scary, that that highest justices in the land would take that sort of activist role and you mentioned france, dan, that's scary. the back drop of this whole presidential year is europe. we know where the path leads. and the turmoil and welfare states and how unsustainability and the high unemployment that comes with them and that was the back drop of our presidential campaign. >> paul: okay,
for the economy. and the transaction tax is being taken very seriously in europe and probably will happen there, even though the u.k. is kicking and screaming because they specialize in being the home of trading, whether trading in stocks or derivatives or anything else. they simply do not want that to be taxed. there are people in congress. i think wall street is now the number-one contributor to political campaigns. at least, it is in the running for number-one. i have been to washington many times and i'm involved with several groups that are trying to reform the business sector so that it can work, so that it can survive. it is very difficult because of the sheer amount of money that the finance sector in particular is pouring into lobbying and campaign contributions. it is very difficult. >> let's give a round of applause for lin. -- lynn. [applause] there is an opportunity for you to purchase and have the but signed. if you have court-further questions, she will be here signing books. thank you all and have a safe trip home. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [caption
for government to keep raising the value added tax. we've seen it happened in spain, italy and greece and wherever it's tried. adam: i lived in spain a long time ago. i guess you realize you don't paying it at the time but things are more expensive. david: thank you, gang. thank you very much. thanks to the company. thanks to you for watching. now here are dagen and dennis. hi, gang. dagen: merry christmas. love to your family. david: thank you. same to yours. dagen: i'm dagen mcdowell everybody. dennis: i'm dennis neal -- kneale. dagen: is it the fiscal cliff fears that have shoppers down this season? retailers are reporting slowing sales over the last couple of weeks. dennis: a woman fired for being too attractive and a supreme court says it is legal. dagen: i will bite my tongue because it is the top of the hour and stocks now and every 15 minutes. nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. hey nicole. nicole: i look forward to hearing more about that particular story as i watch the stock market here, i do see the dow is down about 1/3 of 1%. majority of the dow components a
, there are well down the light. they won the taxes now. by the time the cuts come in, this ought to be turned around and it was said, we do not need the cuts now that if it has turned around. host: lots of comments coming in of this but so far. one caller rights -- sarasota, florida on the line now. good morning, jill. caller: did morning. i have only one very short thing to say. listen, everyone out there. no matter what party believe in, they're used to be a wonderful country in africa called rhodesia. we are talking about african problems, but it was a bread basket country. produce things. now it is called zimbabwe. inflation is over 1000%. that is all i am going to say to the people watching and listening to this program because we are heading in the same direction. thank you and have a wonderful new year. host: a tear from bob now in the democrat light. caller: thank you for letting me have a chance to speak. i am more optimistic -- i a more pessimistic than optimistic. i just do not think they will ever get together like they should. my one comment is when they start speaking about the
. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're saying you're both losers, right? >> right. >> my real concern is this is what the current version of america actually voted for. >> the house is different. all politics is local. harry reid, you know which in
on fox is here right now. >> just about everybody is trying to stop the tax cuts from expiring. but billions in subidies for wind energy should be expiring. could they be right or will they blow up energy prices. we'll go in focus with steve bor bes and bill and morgan. is it paying off? >> no, it is 18 times that of nuclear energy. ronald reagan was right. thest thing to immortality is a government program. politicians are labeled with hot wind and we label the section gone with the wind. >> we have sending sib sidies in '92, has it been worth it. >> we are early inlet process. we have subsidized oil and coal and gas. we have done them from darn near a century. these don't look so bad. like it or not, the majority of americans believe that global warming is an issue. we need to develop clear energy sources. fossil fuels may be a difficult problem. we are subsidizing thingings. it is cheaper to produce energy from natural gas. it is a subsidies. other than it is natural gas there. it is 63 cents compared to $53. that is not a pay off to me. >> i will have to disagree with rick.
for you. >>> the u.s. is set to go over the fiscal cliff in five days. that means taxes will go up for nearly every american. dramatic spending cuts will kick in. president obama and congress will be back from vacation tomorrow. but will anything get done? >>> plus, wild winter weather sweeping through the country. we'll bring you the latest details on which part of the u.s. could be hit next. cnbc's "worldwide exchange" starts now. >>> and welcome to a special edition of reside worldwide. ross andcle reoff today for boxes day in -- kelly are off today for boxing day. for now, you is us. >> we'll start with a brief check on the markets. energy and metals are trading higher now, wtis up about 55 cents. brent crude up 65 cents. also want to check in on the gold price, as well. gold right now down about slightly under the flat line there, 1,-658. well below the 1,700 mark. the cme globex has been closed for christmas. it's going to reopen at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that goes for treasuries and the foreign exchange market, as well. >> as for action in the overseas markets, the u.k. is
to do anything related to taxes. we both know each side wants a piece of the other to do those exact things and both sides still refuse. is there anything that means those two factors have changed. >> we saw it on the stock market today and we saw the wild swings as news developments happened throughout the course of the day. it impacted the market throughout date and if that continues that kind of pressure from the outside could really put some force on these members of congress to come together for a deal. the closer we get the more pressure from the outside they're going feel and i think it makes it easier, not harder to get a deal in the last 48 to 24 hour space lot of folks have said that's the sweet spot for a deal anyway and there's another group that says we're going over this cliff, if even just temporarily, michelle. >> thank you, eamon. >> just days from heading back to washington, congressman aaron shaw, republican from illinois. thanks for joining us, representative. you got the call and have to go back to washington sunday, 6:30, what, if anything, are you going to vote
is -- but shouldn't crease -- shouldn't greece all its own tax collection? >> let me start with the last question before i start giving out financial advisor. [laughter] greece certainly should focus on dealing -- not so much with tax collection, but what i call tax immunity. they have a very cozy system of tax immunity. the tragedy is when you have an economy like greece's going to a tailspin and you have a massive immunization of national income, and the central bank is effectively kaput, you can really improve your tax collection methods because there is no income tax. people just do not make money any more. even the rich do not make money. other than the money they have already accumulated through geneva or frankfurt. they are not making money. how can you improve your tax mechanism when there's no income to tax? that is the second question. the first question -- i am not worried about inflation at all. in this country, there is this fixation with quantitative easing. bernanke's attempt to stabilize the american economy. it is a policy that i have encountered ever since i came to this countr
1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have been told they could be called back within 48 hours' notice. meantime, and this i guess is also the big news, the white house saying the president's going to be flying back from vacation in hawaii today. a lot of people making something of that. i don't know what it means ultimately. >> well, one thing it means -- >> a show of something. >> if i had to get back from hawaii at a minute's notice, you know what it would be. the president will have an easier time of it, i think. right? >> i noticed a couple of news reports saying the cost of the last-minute flight is about $250 -- >> he's the president, he's allowed. he's not going to be like in -- you know, transferring in san francisco or l.a. or something. and hoping that flight isn't -- i think he can just sort of -- >> the good news. >> he can probably work on the way ba
-- than cussing excess from public finances. the imf has warned against more tax hikes warning these could further restrict growth. he says it's built a bit of momentum, but still needs to do more. >> france has to reform. france cannot -- that can avoid reforms. it can be again reforms which might be different. but we need to reform. let me say that from that perspective, the recent decisions going the right direction and i think that the government has understood the need to help companies create jobs. so what is important is that this momentum is there going forward. i mean, the momentum, positive momentum regarding the negotiation between the trade unions and the corporate buddies to give more flexibility to the labor markets, to give the ability for corporates to adapt more quickly. it's very important that the government complies with reducing the budget deficit and reducing public spending. we have too high level of public spending. and if you reach the level of taxes is too high. so the strategy of the government should be going forward, again, to cap public spending, reduce taxes,
tax bill as the so-called fiscal cliff of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes comes ever closer. >> his proposal, known as plan b, was shot down by republicans who refuse to support any tax increases. the plan would have raised taxes on income over $1 million. he says it is now up to president barack obama to come up with a solution. >> what could that mean for ordinary americans? our reporter went to find out. >> store manager jennifer thomas sells trendy designer fashions at her boutique in the u.s. capitol, washington, d.c. it is a tough business. competition is fierce, and it could get worse if the u.s. were to slip over the fiscal cliff. automatic tax hikes across the board would mean less disposable income for american consumers. >> i think our biggest concerns here are we will not be seeing people purchase as many items as they have in the past. we will see people buy jeans and a top, but they will not buy an additional pair of jeans or a dress on top of that. >> many customers are already pinching pennies. >> it has put a lower ceiling than normal on what we can spend fo
in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of the american households. it's been 10 days since the president and the speaker held any substantial face-to-face meetings. is time up or is it still possible for both sides to reach a last minute deal? let's put the question to byron york of the "washington examiner". too late or, gosh, maybe this is so easy you can wait until the last minute? >> i guess it depends whether you believe in miracles, gregg. gregg: i don't. >> the only thing that is really happening is the days are ticking by. i think what we've got is, you go first situation here. remember, after the so-called plan b failed in the house, john boehner, speaker of the house said, look, it's up to the senate. we'll not do anything more. we already passed a bill a while back that would extend bush tax cuts for everybody. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do something. we'll not do anything until president obama and the democrats come up with a plan and president
the speaker can't tell what they're going to do. >> i don't want taxes to go up. republicans don't want taxes to go up. but we only run the house. democrats continue to run washington. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> eamon javers live in washington. eamon, fascinating to look at that tape in retrospect. >> i think a lot of people in washington think the make-or-break deal making sessions have already happened here. and one republican senator i talked to this morning said there are very low expectations now for this meeting at the white house today. and boy, how times have changed, carl. just watching that tape that you just ran. one of the things that i'll be watching for when i'm standing on the white house north lawn this afternoon is whether or not these four congressional leaders come out as they did back in november and talk to the press after the meeting. we've had a lot of meetings at the white house where people have left very quickly, gotten into a suv and driven off the complex without talking to reporters. if they come out to those
, whether it's the effects of the fed's monetary policy, year end, fiscal cliff tax related issues. the motivations are a little bit different this time around than they were last year. >> yeah. it's not as pressing, some would argue. some were actually saying on friday, maybe it would have been better if the markets had a sharper sell-off because that could have forced the lawmakers to do something as opposed to leave for obama to have a hastily called friday evening press conference saying, you know what, congress, you have ten days, you go work it out. it's doable. >> it's been an interesting year. of course, we started off so well, in terms of expectations for economic growth. we had an election this year, too. i think that's another thing that is sort of the key. we hit europe again as we had the last two years previously. but this last quarter, i think there's been a lot more optimism, even with the fiscal cliff sitting there, as sort of this potential, real roadblock at the end of the year. perhaps even too much optimism some would say. when you speak to ceos, there's still
. the president gave us a little hope tonight that an agreement to avert a middle class tax hike could still occur next week. saw the breakdown play hideously in the session today. dow shrimping 120 points. nasdaq diving .96%. it makes sense the market got a whacking when you consider that the speaker of the house didn't have enough votes in his own party to push through any tax increases and the president says there's got to be some. that's even for people making more than a million bucks. it was for show. the president would have vetoed the bill. he insisted again that he will not -- tonight, he's not about to let the rich get away with it, whatever that means. we have been worried that since the election the politicians won't rise above partisanship and come to an agreement. we at cnbc have taken an historic position. get a deal done for the good of the country. what faces us is worrisome. nation could see 2 million jobs loss. slashing of unemployment benefits when you are laying people out. dramatic increases in taxes for everyone. including those who are just scrimping by. these are draconian
the fiscal cliff, however, and that's the bad news. and looming tax hikes, spending cuts, all of that. both sides warning a very big deal becoming a bit more unlikely. >> and my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. and he has put himself with plan b and sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right goes to go along with him. and he and the president were going to say we're going to pass a deal with the majority of republicans and the majority of democrats in the house and senate, we would get a mainstream deal. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big deal for the big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we will have leverage to turn the country around. >> congress is now out of session for the christmas holiday. but expect it to be back thursday. joe, we talked to some of the senators and congress last week saying will you come back from vacation? some of them pretend like they weren't going, but i think they really were. >> if boehner's leadership is
trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve the patch anded medicare doc fix, and other things. the lapse of the tax cuts means the top tax rate reverts to 39.6 from 35% now. taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert to 15% from 10% now, and investors see capital gains rate revert from 20%, revert to 20%, rather from 15% now. depending on what analysis you look at, average families could pay $2,000 to $4,000 more in taxes next year. ashley? ashley: that's the why it's called the cliff. thank you, peter. >> you bet. ashley: the speaker stuck in a storm, but the phones do work. bell ringing soon, and amazon known for customer service, especially over the holidays, but it's not cared over to the web hosting business. merry christmas for hollywood. ticket sales going through the roof. details when "count down" returns. ♪ ♪ >> well, earlier, of course, we touched on the weakness in retail after disappointing data. well, technology shares under pressure, especially the large ca
fiscal policy here, about spending and taxing. and entitlement policy. but this book also gets deeply into energy, into immigration, entrepreneurship and a lot of other areas where we think policies f they change -- if they change, can promote growth. so i thank you all for coming. thank you, mr. president, and, please, pick up your book on the way out. [applause] and read it. ?rsh. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> booktv is on facebook. like us to interact with booktv guests and viewers. watch videos and get up-to-date information on events. facebook.com/booktv. >> next, chrystia freeland talks about the rides of the super rich, the top .1% of the global population. and the impact they have in the world. this talk was hosted by politics & prose bookstore in washington, d.c., and it's about an hour. [applause] >> hey, thanks a lot. and and sorry for keeping everyone waiting. you-had a chance to finish reading my book in that time. [laughter] so i probably don't need to say anything about it. so i'll just say a few things, um, about what's in my book, and then maybe we can talk
, the government will have to continue issuing bonds, as no major increase in tax revenues can be expected. >>> u.s. lawmakers will resume budget talks as the year-end deadline for the fiscal cliff looms. u.s. president barack obama is cutting short his christmas holiday to carry on the negotiations to avert drastic budget cuts and tax increases. obama is scheduled to return to washington on thursday in time to restart talks. the u.s. president is asking congressional executives to compile a compromise plan that features continued tax cuts for the middle class. that represents a shift in his policy that called for higher taxes on the wealthy, along with measures to cut the fiscal deficit. talks between democrats and republicans came to a standstill last week. a deal still remains uncertain. the republicans canceled a vote on their compromise plan. that's because many republicans remain opposed to any kind of tax hikes. >>> china has opened what it calls the world's longest high-speed rail line. the railway links the capital city of beijing and ghangzhou in the south. shun ishibe have more. >> rep
and he said it was a tax. not a fee. >> well, it needs more clarification. >> south carolina senator jim demint, who is resigning his senate seat and becoming the president of the heritage foundation, which in effect is an admission that the tea party forces where he was their mentor and benefactor, that they are a spent force in the senate at least. >> what kind of a salary does that job have? >> a million plus with a little financial incentive. >> a million bucks a year. >> that has nothing to do withth him going over there, though? >> i think it has something to do with it. >> i would say the abandonment by this administration of a 30-year ally. namely, mubarak in egypt in such a way that it lost and undermine the confidence of the entire arab world in the loyalty and credibility of america as an ally. >> i put morsy in there. >> i did. >> it goes to president obama from the marijuana growers in california because he promised he was going to back off of marijuana prosecutions in states where medicinal marijuana had been legalesed and they have continued up there in particular. this ha
taxes than he does and acknowledges that class war is being waged and that this class is booming. rather remarkable. i want you to talk about events and the eurozone, europe and how that is affecting the economic crisis here. your visit, an example of successful example of an alternative to of the capitalist economic model in spain. >> first of all, warren buffett, there again i think the contradictory as of all of this is at play. on the one hand, yes, there have always been people like him on the side of the wealthy, the big corporations, who have a clear understanding that at a certain point it becomes dangerous to keep going in that direction. you cannot keep having a smaller and smaller number of people doing really well in a sea of people that are having a harder and harder time. pushing, but don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg in the end. so there are always voices like that. not the only one. there are a whole bunch of people like that to see that and to have the courage or the comfort or the security to say it. remember also, the same warren buffett he says that is a m
passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay hitting the government's 16$16.4 trillion borrowing limit. treasury will take several measures to save that next year to keep the government from reaching the limit for about two months. but geithner warns it is harder to predict how long the delay will last because of all of this ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations making it harder to forecast what revenue and tax spending will be next year. >>> the journal says right here the white house and congressional leaders have shown no signs of progress in the senate or elsewhere. and then, you know, i don't think we've run this bite enough. >> tim geithner told steve liesman. >> i have it ready. >> that he is we should show it multiple times. >> tt i
the cliff because then tax less go up. take a listen. >> when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for, for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> reporter: democrats say that is ridiculous, that the president has been working with republican leaders again and again trying to workout some sort of a deal, both on spending and taxes to avoid the fiscal cliff, and democrat chuck schumer yesterday said the real problem is that republicans won't admit the president won the election and that tax rates are going up. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increase for people below, but taxes for people above, he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls, including some republicans. >> reporter: all eyes now turning to the possibility
parameters on tax and spending policy. >> is there anything that's immune to the fiscal cliff talk, anything you would buy right here? >> well, i would say, you know, first of all, i might push back a little bit. i think that the market has been a little bit complacent. i think the market believes that -- than common sense will prevail in this, and i -- i -- as i keep saying i believe that the calculus of congress is complex. it doesn't follow the normal accounting results, and so we just assumed that everything is going to be fine and in that sense we believe that the tail risks regarding the fiscal cliff have not really been fully priced in. we do believe there's risk here. if we can get past this, then clearly i think we've got a very positive environment given all the other good things that have been said over and above that, that if we go over the cliff, if there's a real possibility, then we'll see consumer incomes go down and like i said earnings expectations are likely to be revised lower, so what do we like fundamentally? >> pretty defensive areas in many cases there? >> i would say
through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis, but yes of the fiscal cliff. it seems we have this moment where this animal goes over the cliff, all limbs are still rotating around and we're staring into the abyss and eventually we're going to fold. >> i love t
before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republi
with his tax cuts. i think he had that real nice, soft personality, a very warm guy who knew what it was to be poor and to fight your way out of difficult things. but he was also a man who had convictions. he was willing to go to the mat if he had to. a good man. the best i knew. >> does the presidential nominating process bring candidate in to this system with conviction, with the kind of skills you think it takes to be a successful president? >> i do not mean to disparage anybody who has run for office but i think there is too many people running for office who are concerned about politics in getting elected than doing what is really right. i feel like ronald reagan was one of those guys who had a commitment in his soul to do what he thought was best for the country, and not to worry about being partisan all the time and being worried about the next election. and so i think right now we have too many people that when they run for office they read the polls and they try to do what they think is going to get elected instead of saying what they believe and i think it is time now th
that obama will discuss measures for avoiding the rest of the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that will bite if lawmakers fail to come up with a plan. >> pessimism remains the prevailing mood in washington as the january deadline rapidly approaches. neither democrats nor republicans have any new proposals for a workable compromise. >> the starbucks coffee chain has urged its workers in washington, d.c., area to write "come together" on the cups, a plea for party leaders to work out a compromise, but some customers say that is not enough. >> i mean, i like with starbucks is riding on the cups. i wish they would write, like, something else, like "republicans, stop being stupid." >> i think the solution will probably be neutered and not very effective, but ultimately, i think they will avoid the fiscal cliff. >> but neither side appears willing to give in. democrats, for example, are frustrated that republicans will not agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> the majority of rich people in our great country are willing to pay more. the only people who disagree with that are repub
-called fiscal cliff, taxes and spending cuts unless democrats and republicans reach a deal by new year's eve. >> nearly all the major players in those negotiations are starting to agree on one thing, and that is that a deal is virtually impossible by that deadline. senior officials say there is little hope of a grand bargain to shave trillions of dollars off of america's mountain of debt. >> applause for the bell at the start of the trading day is a daily ritual at the new york stock exchange, despite the enthusiasm, traders are keeping an anxious eye on share prices. the fiscal cliff is on everyone's mind. u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner has warned that his department will need to take extraordinary measures to postpone the upcoming government defaults. he plans adjustments to the national budget that would give the u.s. two months of grace. president barack obama has said he is still hopeful that a resolution can be reached this year. he cut short his vacation in hawaii to restart negotiations with republicans in congress. before christmas, the president called for bipartisan coop
maybe we can keep things going a bit longer. and it won't cause the crisis immediately, and if these tax rises and spending cuts came into effect, they could be repeeled during january. but if they weren't, the momentum that has been very painstaking pumped into the economy could be devastating. >> this morning you see stock markets in asia and europe up a bit. i think their expectation that washington will come to an agreement, i think that might be too early. i think this is still a very clear possibility that they could allow the deadline to pass and resolve this sometime in the middle of january. >> well, any red lution would be welcome. the cost as well, but these spending cuts and the tax rises effectively, the end of the tax concession, that's automatic. >> that is automatic yes but there is question where the money can be found if you like to plug the gap. they wouldn't have much impact for a while. but ultimately they would. and the difficulty is not necessarily the fact that the deadline, this deadline, which is some extent of official anyway would be overrun. it's more the unc
out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down to the end of this year and the oil only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. but i wish we had a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending and entitlement altogether. >> i believe the president senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> some finger pointing. other republicans are now looking past new year's day to the next battleground. >> i will raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security and prevent this country from becoming greece. no more borrowing without addressing why we're in debt to begin with. that's where the real chance for change occurs, at the debt ceiling d
't crease -- shouldn't greece all its own tax collection? >> let me start with the last question before i start giving out financial advisor. [lghter] greece certainly should focus on dealing -- not so much with tax collection, but what i call tax immunity. they have a very cozy system of tax immunity. the tragedy is when you have an economy like greece's going to a tailspin and you have a massive immunization of national income, and the central bank is effectively kaput, you can really improve your tax collection methods because there is no income tax. people just do not make money any more. even the rich do not make money. other than the money they have already accumulated through geneva or frankfurt. they are not making money. how can you improve your tax mechanism when there's no income tax? that is the second question. the first question -- i am not worried about inflation at all. in this country, there is this fixation with quantity -- quantitative easing. bernanke's attempt to stabilize the american economy. it is a policy that i have encountered ever since i came to this country.
connected with this particular custody case and this tax evasion case in russia. >> so matthew, this law would go into effect january 1st. is there any chance that those cases that are pending where the paperwork is finalized and where people are expecting their children, essentially, in a month or two would be allowed to go through? >> well, there is a question mark hanging over those. there are 52 children, according to the kremlin, that are in the middle of this adoption process with u.s. parents. the law, as you say, starts on january the 1st, but it's only a couple of days until then. so unless that can be finalized, my expectation is that that will be put on hold and indeed that's what russian officials are saying, that they don't think this law has been enacted from january the 1st, these children should be allowed to go to the united states. instead there's been a call for russian families to step forward and take on those adoptions instead. >> all right, matthew, thank you very much. russia is one of the most popular countries for american adoptions. the state department says th
-dollar. instead he wanted to extend tax cuts for the middle class. he wanted to extend benefits for 2 million people that will lose those benefits a week after christmas. republicans are saying they think the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for political gain. take a listen. when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> now, republicans are also skeptical of the short-term deal the president is talking about because it would leave spending cuts until next year. not deal with them now. republicans don't like the idea that some taxes would go up. meanwhile, the spends cuts wouldn't come until later. although democrats on the hill say the real reason republicans have not sealed the deal with the president yet is they just won't admit that he won the election. take a listen to senator chuck schumer. >> on taxes i know it's hard for the republicans but the pr
a deal to avoid the massive automatic tax hikes and spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff. >> president obama spent christmas day visiting with troops in hawaii. >> while back in washington uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been work
was at the white house today trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means perhaps heading back into recession? >> yes there is little doubt in washington about the seriousness of the sick jubilation. the problem is withdrawing government demand from the economy too big spending programs cut
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